...sunflower seeds don't sprout in people's palms. [It's a weak argument, something to be contradictory but he absolutely gets what Katsura's saying. Even if they have no idea what to do with CERES after they took it back, it would at least be theirs to figure it out. Mochi swipes a paw at Katsura the moment he lets up but Hiro's quiet and solemn for a moment.]

Tell me more about the captive. If she's someone who could help us, we should start learning more about her. Anything's better than us just sitting here going along with whatever they want us to believe.

[This is literally the worst idea ever. Who let them meet. Who let Katsura plant ideas in Hiro's head and vice versa. Mochi's tail flicks, swatting Katsura in the face but Hiro doesn't notice.]